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You know, many people have recovered their pets as prizes via the ViViD system. Have you not checked? For someone so concerned, I imagine that would be the first place you looked.
You needn't worry about CERES underestimating the importance of you and your fellows. Everything else is secondary compared to your safety and happiness, Mr Katsura. You come first.
You needn't worry about CERES underestimating the importance of you and your fellows. Everything else is secondary compared to your safety and happiness, Mr Katsura. You come first.
I have won many prizes. From cute things to credits to *****s. I even wondered if I could win my friends from back home just to ensure their safety. That isn't how this place works, now is it?
After this most recent incident, I'm not sure if I'm willing to participate or trust in your so-called games anymore.
I don't believe that.
After this most recent incident, I'm not sure if I'm willing to participate or trust in your so-called games anymore.
I don't believe that.
*****s? Surely not. I didn't realize *****s were an in game prize. I might need a refresher on what's currently available, haha.
It seems you're feeling sensitive today, Mr Katsura. I did hope the gift would help but if you're going to take your suffering out on me, perhaps we should talk again at another time? I really am just trying to help but if you won't believe that, then we have nothing to discuss.
It seems you're feeling sensitive today, Mr Katsura. I did hope the gift would help but if you're going to take your suffering out on me, perhaps we should talk again at another time? I really am just trying to help but if you won't believe that, then we have nothing to discuss.
[ All of this texting was exhausting and he's an old man. Spare him. Zura switches to video and is sitting on his haunches with his CereVICE propped up so we can see. His jaw is firm. ]
... I have every reason to be sensitive. I have speculations in regards to you and our business being here. There are several things that I believe.
One— these glitches that you all seem to take so likely is a flaw in your system, and it is our adversaries attacking us by their own means. There are a few problems wrong with this, as all attacks I have received seem to be personalized, much like this gift you've given me. The idea is still probable, though, because we don't know as much about our supposed enemies as we would like.
Two— It is your own doing, purposefully— maliciously. The reasoning behind it can only leave me baffled, but the previous owner so easily passed these incidents with mere apologies and nothing more. Is this how you treat your "heroes"?
I have suffered, and I'm not alone.
I have a faith that this new management will make things right... and perhaps be more open with the meaning behind these things. It's a small faith, but it is there.
If not, again, I will have no hesitations to take actions.
[ he came here with some weapons from home and he hasn't had any reason to use them... yet. ]
... I have every reason to be sensitive. I have speculations in regards to you and our business being here. There are several things that I believe.
One— these glitches that you all seem to take so likely is a flaw in your system, and it is our adversaries attacking us by their own means. There are a few problems wrong with this, as all attacks I have received seem to be personalized, much like this gift you've given me. The idea is still probable, though, because we don't know as much about our supposed enemies as we would like.
Two— It is your own doing, purposefully— maliciously. The reasoning behind it can only leave me baffled, but the previous owner so easily passed these incidents with mere apologies and nothing more. Is this how you treat your "heroes"?
I have suffered, and I'm not alone.
I have a faith that this new management will make things right... and perhaps be more open with the meaning behind these things. It's a small faith, but it is there.
If not, again, I will have no hesitations to take actions.
[ he came here with some weapons from home and he hasn't had any reason to use them... yet. ]
Edited 2015-06-22 05:48 (UTC)
Oh, I have answers for this.
1) Your data is in the system. The network around you holds that data. Let me see if I can explain this as simple as possible. There is you, Kotarou Katsura, but not as a person as a... file? Ah, this is where it gets complicated, bear with me. Within that file is all that makes up Kotarou Katsura. Your hopes, your dreams, your history, etc etc.
Then something happens, a glitch, an attack, what have you. That data is suddenly momentarily corrupted and will be used for and against you. So, when our community at large is suffering a bit of trouble, the chances of the trouble you encounter specifically being personal to you are quite high. It's as if your own data is attacking you too. Right now, there isn't a fix for that since to keep you as you, your data has to be connected. Otherwise, you will be an empty vessel. You might look like Kotarou Katsura but you most certainly will not feel like Kotarou Katsura. That is why we are perfectly willing to do anything we can to help ease whatever pain you suffer through. It's not fun to have your demons presented to you and no NDA in the universe can keep that from happening. I wouldn't wish that on anyone.
2) The attacks are not from us. They are, as we always have stated before, the Flamines. These are not the front lines, Mr Katsura, but they know that this colony is valuable. Sometimes, they are able to attack our networks through their nefarious ways and we stop them. The side-effects are the glitches you encounter. We, just like you, would prefer it to stop.
But you are smart to assume we are not like Mr Vincere and his crew. CERES will be taken towards a new direction now, one with open doors and free information. We really, really do not have anything to hide and I am not sure why Mr Vincere acted as if this was the case. My apologies, Mr Katsura.
Do enjoy your present.
1) Your data is in the system. The network around you holds that data. Let me see if I can explain this as simple as possible. There is you, Kotarou Katsura, but not as a person as a... file? Ah, this is where it gets complicated, bear with me. Within that file is all that makes up Kotarou Katsura. Your hopes, your dreams, your history, etc etc.
Then something happens, a glitch, an attack, what have you. That data is suddenly momentarily corrupted and will be used for and against you. So, when our community at large is suffering a bit of trouble, the chances of the trouble you encounter specifically being personal to you are quite high. It's as if your own data is attacking you too. Right now, there isn't a fix for that since to keep you as you, your data has to be connected. Otherwise, you will be an empty vessel. You might look like Kotarou Katsura but you most certainly will not feel like Kotarou Katsura. That is why we are perfectly willing to do anything we can to help ease whatever pain you suffer through. It's not fun to have your demons presented to you and no NDA in the universe can keep that from happening. I wouldn't wish that on anyone.
2) The attacks are not from us. They are, as we always have stated before, the Flamines. These are not the front lines, Mr Katsura, but they know that this colony is valuable. Sometimes, they are able to attack our networks through their nefarious ways and we stop them. The side-effects are the glitches you encounter. We, just like you, would prefer it to stop.
But you are smart to assume we are not like Mr Vincere and his crew. CERES will be taken towards a new direction now, one with open doors and free information. We really, really do not have anything to hide and I am not sure why Mr Vincere acted as if this was the case. My apologies, Mr Katsura.
Do enjoy your present.
[After the CereVices come back on from their six-hour outage or thereabouts... SURPRISE it's a call from Hinata.]
Hey, did you get your wounds looked after?
[...it's a worried call, even.] And... is your eye...?
Hey, did you get your wounds looked after?
[...it's a worried call, even.] And... is your eye...?
Hello, Hinata-san.
Yes, I had my wounds taken care of at the hospital. It isn't anything that I haven't experienced before.
My vision did give out and I arrived in my apartment. I had my injuries taken care of, but I was not able to get the camera.
I think keeping things in person is a moot point. They can hear and see us no matter what we do. How can that be?
Yes, I had my wounds taken care of at the hospital. It isn't anything that I haven't experienced before.
My vision did give out and I arrived in my apartment. I had my injuries taken care of, but I was not able to get the camera.
I think keeping things in person is a moot point. They can hear and see us no matter what we do. How can that be?
[Hinata's sighing again just at the memory that they can. Damn it. What the hell is he supposed to do? He can't dig out his own eyes or perform surgery on himself, as much as he'd like to go looking for whatever they've put in him.]
It's got to be something electronic, because my watch stopped working about the same time my vision went out. [And, after a small pause,] They could have us unconscious when they first get us here, put... whatever it is into our eye then.
It's got to be something electronic, because my watch stopped working about the same time my vision went out. [And, after a small pause,] They could have us unconscious when they first get us here, put... whatever it is into our eye then.
... And who knows what else they managed to put in there.
They always have the upper hand. I told people this when I first got suspicious.
Hinata-san, they have almost complete control of us. Anybody who is in resistance of them is put in the most danger.
They always have the upper hand. I told people this when I first got suspicious.
Hinata-san, they have almost complete control of us. Anybody who is in resistance of them is put in the most danger.
[Sakamoto wakes up to find Zura next to him. Relief comes first, anxiety leaving his body with one loud sigh. He had no doubt that the other would return alive, as they've faced worse, much worse than this!
Or so he thinks.
He's about to edge closer, to wrap his arms around the other and laugh loudly in Zura's ears, but he notices the bandage on the other's arm.]
Ahhhhh, I knew you'd be back! So, so! You're a little roughed up. Not to worry, not to worry! I'll get ya to the hospital in the nick of time.
Sorry to disturb ya, but- Can you sit up for me? I wanna check you out. Just to make sure we don't have a big disaster on our hands!
Or so he thinks.
He's about to edge closer, to wrap his arms around the other and laugh loudly in Zura's ears, but he notices the bandage on the other's arm.]
Ahhhhh, I knew you'd be back! So, so! You're a little roughed up. Not to worry, not to worry! I'll get ya to the hospital in the nick of time.
Sorry to disturb ya, but- Can you sit up for me? I wanna check you out. Just to make sure we don't have a big disaster on our hands!
Aaaaa, tchtchtch-- S-Sakamoto, not so loud, don't hold onto me like that--
[ He felt really sick and disoriented, and his vision-- he was having trouble seeing out of one eye still. What was that? How did he even end up back here?
Oh my god. He feels like he's going to puke. This isn't right. He isn't the one that usually pukes.
Katsura does comply to Sakamoto's request, though, and slowly sits up, holding onto his head. ]
[ He felt really sick and disoriented, and his vision-- he was having trouble seeing out of one eye still. What was that? How did he even end up back here?
Oh my god. He feels like he's going to puke. This isn't right. He isn't the one that usually pukes.
Katsura does comply to Sakamoto's request, though, and slowly sits up, holding onto his head. ]
I know.
It was like that last time, against the other corporation I was against. I'm... already used to being in danger all the time.
I've never really believed it was safe here for us anyway. It'll just... be hard to resist or take them by surprise. [Unless they figure out another method of communication... and even then, just how advanced is this surveillance they've put into them? Can it tap into their memories, thoughts?] They might be able to get rid of us easily, in the end.
It was like that last time, against the other corporation I was against. I'm... already used to being in danger all the time.
I've never really believed it was safe here for us anyway. It'll just... be hard to resist or take them by surprise. [Unless they figure out another method of communication... and even then, just how advanced is this surveillance they've put into them? Can it tap into their memories, thoughts?] They might be able to get rid of us easily, in the end.
Edited 2015-07-05 19:38 (UTC)
[ Katsura listens to Hinata. There is some movement, like he is shifting, followed by silence. ]
Mosley-dono told me when this world glitches, they are attacks from our supposed enemies. They are personalized, because CERES has all of our personalities and memories on record. You could say that the Flamines are "hacking" us.
I.. don't know if I believe that. But.. CERES is telling some truth. We are data of some kind like what was in the first briefing when we got here.
Mosley-dono told me when this world glitches, they are attacks from our supposed enemies. They are personalized, because CERES has all of our personalities and memories on record. You could say that the Flamines are "hacking" us.
I.. don't know if I believe that. But.. CERES is telling some truth. We are data of some kind like what was in the first briefing when we got here.
... [The thought of being data... doesn't bother him as much as it would at one point. Maybe because Hinata's dear friend is an AI, someone who should be only data, but she was far, far more than that.]
If we're data, all they might have to do is to alter our "codes" so that we have these things in us...
If we're data, all they might have to do is to alter our "codes" so that we have these things in us...
Edited 2015-07-05 20:59 (UTC)
I asked America-dono what happened to him after his incident where he perished.
He came back good as new.
I don't believe this makes us immortal, though. What if they can choose if we come back or if we don't?
And I..
He came back good as new.
I don't believe this makes us immortal, though. What if they can choose if we come back or if we don't?
And I..
Edited (neh text) 2015-07-05 21:04 (UTC)
[Hinata thinks about Haven, the revival machine there... he never got a look at it for himself, but he heard of it... He wonders if they have something similar here.
Or, indeed, if they can control it completely.
But...]
You... did?
Or, indeed, if they can control it completely.
But...]
You... did?
America-dono, from my understanding, died in a game of roulette outside of ViVid. The death I experienced was during the world's cleansing when we all arrived in ViVid. I died by losing in ViVid.
I died there and had to be punished.
My punishment.. it wasn't physical. It was psychological.
If they have access to our eyes, they have access to our brains and our hearts.. ultimately our souls.
I died there and had to be punished.
My punishment.. it wasn't physical. It was psychological.
If they have access to our eyes, they have access to our brains and our hearts.. ultimately our souls.
I can't... really argue that, but.
It makes me wonder, why don't they just brainwash us to be happy little citizens of their colony? They know plenty of us don't believe in them.
[...] Do they just not care, because they could do what they wanted with us in the end anyway? But then, what we learned in their building, if they had that much power they should just be able to erase our memories, but...
It makes me wonder, why don't they just brainwash us to be happy little citizens of their colony? They know plenty of us don't believe in them.
[...] Do they just not care, because they could do what they wanted with us in the end anyway? But then, what we learned in their building, if they had that much power they should just be able to erase our memories, but...
Do you remember the tarot cards, Hinata-san?
Do you not think that was a kind of brainwashing?
People's personalities were being altered. It was either their form of "training" gone wrong, or it was malicious intent from the start like everything that happens here.
I have no doubt this will happen again.
Do you not think that was a kind of brainwashing?
People's personalities were being altered. It was either their form of "training" gone wrong, or it was malicious intent from the start like everything that happens here.
I have no doubt this will happen again.
...It was when that happened I wondered if there was something wrong or different about us.
[His voice drops into a mumble.]
It'll all keep on happening unless we get control of our own codes. [Ie, take down CERES...]
[His voice drops into a mumble.]
It'll all keep on happening unless we get control of our own codes. [Ie, take down CERES...]
There isn't any need to mumble. They still know what you are saying and that we are having this conversation.
And then what? Many of us have the same aspirations, but nobody is making any advancement to this goal.
Nobody is saying what we will do once we win.
Are we to live here on Tellus and forget our homes?
And then what? Many of us have the same aspirations, but nobody is making any advancement to this goal.
Nobody is saying what we will do once we win.
Are we to live here on Tellus and forget our homes?
We have to go back to our homes.
[...] Yeah, I don't know how to get back. I don't even have a plan to get back, because I barely know anything still. [In his voice is frustration, frustration at himself and at everything.] I don't even know if it's going to be possible.
It's already been almost two years for me... but I need to keep going.
[...] Yeah, I don't know how to get back. I don't even have a plan to get back, because I barely know anything still. [In his voice is frustration, frustration at himself and at everything.] I don't even know if it's going to be possible.
It's already been almost two years for me... but I need to keep going.
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